Editor and Website Developer @ Leeds Music Scene.
I am not attending any upcoming Leeds gigs.
I attended 5 previous gigs in Leeds - show.
Different band, hence different biography. As the biography says this page is for the OCD that was Mark Hadley's electronic/live project. Your OCD is another band sharing the same common name.
You can add Backyards to this gig page via your band profile.
Submit a new line up and preview via www.leedsgigs.co.uk and it will replace this one within 24 hours.
I've updated the link.
"The point about Jack Edwards 'not being on his own as his name would suggest' is embarrassingly stupid."
Eh? How so?
How is advising readers that may not have encountered "Jack Edwards" that "Jack" was not playing as a solo musician but fronting a band on this night in any way at all "embarrassingly stupid"?
Do you not think is it relevant to a review to point out that "Jack" was playing with a band? It's incredibly informative if you ask me.
Before reading the review I naively expected that "Jack Edwards" appeared as a solo musician; but I read the review and was educated otherwise.
Job done from the writer.
You may not have liked the rest of the content of her review, but to have picked out that informative sentence for criticism makes absolutely no sense.
Thanks for the review Jamie. A great night and a difficult one to review (or judge for that matter) as you've noted.
I've spoken to two or three others and each of us picked out different highlights and had our own favourites and you've offered yet another opinion, so I cannot think how difficult it was for the judges to decide.
Every band could have won and well done to Glassbody.
I think (but could be mistaken, I'm just trying to remember based on your review) that my favourite was Euthemia, closely followed by PaperPlane. But I might be wrong, there was so much going on!
This is now a free entry gig.
I thought it was a good, well-written review. It was certainly a better write-up than most reviews I have read over the years and I thought it was very informative for someone (like me) that wasn't there.
Whether Benson's fans liked Benson is hardly something to use as a yard stick for the accuracy of an independent review. I accept, however, your own first-hand experience. But to be honest, I would rather read the opinion of someone trying to write objectively (whether or not they achieve it) than those are clearly biased to start with; fans are far more likely to be blown away with a band since they went to watch them in the first place. That doesn't mean one individual is "right" and the other is "wrong" (notice the quotes, they are intentional - it's not an issue of right v wrong), it just means the two are coming at the gig from entirely different perspectives and very rarely will there be a true convergence of opinions (unless the writer is also an avid fan or the band are truly amazing to all that see them).
The article was written 15th August 2010.
We've been advised that it's Vacant Kiss not Insect Guide that are headlining this gig.
Free entry to Live At Leeds Wristband holders.
From one of the bands, I would guess, or the promoter?
Headliner updated to Leatherface.
Hi James - I've done it.
(also, bands have a special admin page and they can do it too).
I've been watching (and enjoying) the video to "Things that fall from the sky". Check it out: vimeo.com/32804065
I fixed it this afternoon after seeing your earlier comment.
Hahaha, quite possibly yes!
In our review of this gig, it says that they left the stage saying "we're coming back in a month with Hundred Reasons" ... would that have been the tour you were on?
Tim - I can't work out if you liked the last band or not.
You can change your username within the "edit profile" option.
Thanks Paula.... good gig?
Stella - the biog comes directly from last.FM.
I would have to disagree with the comment about undermining the BBC.
A negative review of an unsigned band on a regional website does not, accidentally or intentionally, undermine the BBC and I am sure this review has had zero impact on the opinions within the BBC about the band, or on those who listen to BBC Introducing, or on those who like the band. BBC Introducing will continue just fine after this review.
Looking forward to hearing the new single.
Thanks to both of you for adding your comments to the discussion "The Badger" and Paul.
This article was for LaL 2010.
That will be incredible Sean, looking forward to it already.
Thanks for the pics @UnholyRacket - I'll look into the problems faced uploading your other photos (I've spotted some server/system errors).
You're right, I've updated the artwork.
The event has now been removed from their Facebook, so I am assuming it must have been cancelled.
COMPETITION. We have 2 tickets to give away for this gig.
To be in with a chance of winning, send a tweet
"@leedsmusicscene I want to win tickets for James Vincent Mcmorrow"
Or visit www.facebook.com/leedsmusicscene and 'like' our competition post.
Great photos Nathan and Michelle.
Looking forward to hearing the new album.
I'm really enjoying the new album, 'The Big Roar', wish I could be at this gig but alas...
We've been told that the release date for this was pushed back to 24th January 2011 (this week).
Album launch tonight (29/1) at Brudenell Social Club.
Thanks for the update, I'll post the extra details onto the gig.
I've added those other bands now Claire, thanks.
These have been fantastic, thanks to all the bands who contributed tracks for download.
Now sorted. Me and My Friends added. Backyards removed.
This is great, thanks Eiger!
I've added both on now.
You can also add yourself onto gigs via your band profile 'edit' page.
Great! Just downloaded the MP3 now.
THIS GIG HAS MOVED.
Instead of The Brudenell Social Club it will be at The Lewis Jones Suite.
The Lewis Jones Suite is in the new leisure complex at the Headingley Carnegie Stadium, St Michael's Lane.
Cheers Mickey, I've added Penguin to the listings now.
The event promoter / organiser submitted as The, but I've now changed it on our listings for you.
I would expect so, as the ticket pre-sale typically includes some Early Entry tickets as well. But I don't know for definite.
That's been changed for you Claire.
This event has been cancelled.
Yeah, it's automatic conversion in my comments system.
Absolutely agree with you on this Alfonse.
www.get-ctrl.com will be there too. They'd like some bands that want a website to come to the event, and they'll build it right there and then to show how easy it is... interest? Make sure you're registered.
Some great photos of Lifesceen from this gig:
I love Belle & Sebastian. I also liked Phluid - but haven't yet heard The Idol Dead which I intend to do because I reckon I might enjoy them.
Some great pictures there Sam. As usual.
I've set the gig to "cancelled" now.
I've been listening to 'It's Not Over Yet' on your Facebook page, it gets the thumbs up from me... sounds great and I was singing along before the track was even a minute through its first play.
Really enjoyed this gig tonight. Unfortunately timings meant that I only caught the last 10 minutes of openers Bearfoot Beware, but the rest was a really good standard and a great gig for the neutral. Vote for me ended up being a toss up between Wot Gorrila? and Soul Circus
Yeah, I think you're right.
Hi Megan, thanks for the offer. Can you get in touch via the Contact Us link at the bottom of the page so I can email you back please.
Oh joy, I'm loving listening to 'Dark Days & Nights'.
Well done Ashley. Any links to have a listen to the tracks you've been involved in?
And does that mean we'll get to hear the track on the Eurovision night itself? (it might give me a reason to watch)
A writer's style is always going to represent them personally and as with normal day-to-day interactions your approach to life, your style, your attitudes, etc, will appeal to some people and put other people off. The saying "you can't please them all" springs to mind. For example: I really enjoy reading Jessica's reviews. On the other hand there may be other reviewers that "Gay Bum" likes to read and seeks out as a valued reference that I cannot stand. That's life. In some way this is a defence of both Jessica and "Gay Bum", in that I don't think Jessica should change (because I know that there are a lot of folk that like her writing on this site) but equally that "Gay Bum" has every right to stand up for what (s)he feels is poor writing based on his/her own past references and experiences and what (s)he personally believes is "better".
Did anyone go?
Sounds like you got the extra special version Steve as Amazon folk are complaining that 'Push it' and 'Rehab' (and a few more) aren't on the released CD version.
I've updated supports now.
Got this a bit late, but it's a really good album. I've been listening to it non-stop now for a few days and I am looking forward to the new album too.
I've just bought the previous (current) Frightened Rabbit album based on your recommendations on here and it's fantastic, and I can't wait until the new album either... when's it out?
According to Nath this afternoon all tickets have now been sold out for this NYE event.
If I was in Leeds this New Year then this is probably the gig I would be going to.
Yeah, good idea.
I've bought the Brand New album now, so will have a listen later.
Wow! Well worth it though, I guess, it's getting a positive reaction from people.
The Brudenell Social Club is my favourite Leeds venue.
Hi Ian. We weren't provided with the album artwork, so by default when we have no artwork the system shows the band's main profile image - i.e. from the These Monsters band page. If you (or whoever maintains the band profile) upload the new album artwork to replace the old then it will be shown here instead. What is displayed is in the control of the band. Email me if you need any assistance. Thanks.
Was this the gig that PAbH were on at something like 615pm or 630pm or did I imagine that? I remember seeing an email from them and I thought it was really really early. I hope there were people in the venue at that time to see them.
I've not heard any of the bands before but I did enjoy reading your review Tom. I have a sense of each band now and will explorer further. Thanks!
The batch of pre-sale tickets for Leeds 2010 has now officially sold out. Check back next March for information regarding the full release.
Hmmm, yes... and I was only sent the press a week ago. I wonder where I got October 5th from. I'll check it later.
Just re-read this from 7 years ago.... top tip on "Parva" playing the larger stage in years to come Ian.
I've manually added Mucky Sailor.
The server crashed under the pressure of everyone in Leeds wanting to view the results.
When the crash happened, the five runners up had been announced but the winner had not.
The announcement will be completed tomorrow.
Saturday at Leeds Festival will be the Dance Stage (if anyone was wondering).
The video link is here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f3AN986hKU
Sorted now I think. Any outstanding problems with the bands listed, please let me know.
I did begin with it obviously goes without saying..., as I wasn't trying to suggest anything that was not already blindingly obvious. My comment was aimed at context setting as the discussion over the review of the CD was drifting into a discussion about their live show, and was leading into my next comment which also discussed their live show. I was not trying to suggest it was a concept you were not grasping, and I apologise if that's genuinely how I came across.
There's an unusual amount of interest in this band over the last few days. Anyway, whatever the reasons for the recent interest in The Jen Low Band, hold back from writing 'personal' comments please.
If you want to use these pages please use them to discuss the music.
The single is out now!
Release date has moved back to 17th November.
This single is now going to be released on October 13th on CD and Digital Download formats.
Although not mentioned in the announcement, it will be interesting to see if the new 400-capacity venue will promote its own live bands / gigs in the future. Like an 'Academy 2'...
Nice made-up name there 'Spence' AKA 'Rabea Massaad' AKA 'Bea' AKA 'the ChasinJade guitarist'.
It's fine to respond to reviews - we welcome feedback - but the general etiquette is not to make up a false name. Next time: just come out and say what you have to say using your own name....
Link updated - thanks.
I blame the sub editor for that one
"Academy Music Group can announce that Kaiser Chiefs will perform an exclusive home-town gig to celebrate the launch of Leeds Academy on Wednesday 8th October 2008."
"There have been rumours flying around that The Pigeon Detectives are doing a secret set at Reading Festival. But the band's label, Dance To The Radio, have confirmed that the band are jumping up to support their label mates and friends of the label and are to play a half hour set at 20:50 on the Dance To The Radio stage at Leeds Festival on Thursday night."
Works for me in all major browsers (I just tried it again now). If you can send me an email, I'll determine why it isn't working for you.
The album is now coming out on 18th August 2008.
Futuresound 2008 winners are revealed here:
Who is the 'they' in 'moaning'? And who stated anywhere this was a bad thing?
Kate merely presents an observation and you're actually saying you are in agreement and that this is exactly what And The Return are all about.
So no moaning, nothing negative. Don't assume everything written has to be a put down or a negative; sometimes observations are merely that, and the reader is left to decide if this is a good or a bad thing. Personally, I read the review of And The Return in a totally positive light, especially when you read it in context of the rest of her comments where she compliments the band several times.
I'd hope if the band read the review they will also think it sums their show up nicely. But won't naively think every review has to be negative. I now know exactly what to expect and I will probably like it.
I've added the link to your article. Thanks!
In previous years, bands have appeared in alphabetical order (a->first, Z->last). Not sure what the policy is for this year though.
UPDATE: The Rosie Taylor Project will no longer be able to perform - Hella Cholla have taken their place.
Technically, it's not wrong. 70m is still "over 30 million records worldwide"
Dom -- no one asked you to review the CD; just to stand up for what you believe in. You starting with a confrontation with the reviewer being "totally and utterly wrong" and then rather than expand on why, you just continued to have a dig at the reviewer. All I was asking you for was to put a little more substance into your argument.
But fair enough if you don't want to comment further.
Release date has been put back to Monday, 19th May 2008
Album will be called 'Strength In Numbers' and will be released on June 16th. A single of the same name will be released on June 9th.
1. Strength In Numbers
2. The Spike
5. The Left Side
7. Get Through It
9. The Last One
10. No Weapon Sharper Than Will
11. Cold Blooded
12. Inconceivable Odds
I'll correct the article tonight.
"The Nationwide search for the UK's top beatboxer heated up last night at Mine, Leeds University. After a jaw-dropping finale, the closely-fought battle of the beatboxing elite saw Ball-Zee (Patrick Hirst, 19 from Huddersfield) retain his crown as the king of the Leeds beatbox scene for the second year on the trot - Ball-Zee will now go on to represent Leeds in the final of the Vauxhall Beatbox Championships."
I can't wait for this.
'We Are Grey Matter' is on the band's MySpace page now - www.myspace.com/forwardrussia - and it's a cracking song.
I haven't heard any of them yet, I'll have a dig around their last.fm site tomorrow evening and have a listen. Thanks Tim.
I remember this gig. It was ace!
Now out 28th January 2008.
An excellent performance at Brudenell last night. What a shame it is to hear it's going to be your last gig.
"Good news. Raw Talent will continue to be broadcast on BBC Radio Leeds - by very popular demand.
It'll be broadcast on our DAB frequency on Monday nights between 7 and 9pm."
Tune in and listen.
I guess they are re-releasing it? And it got through my "no reviews of re-releases" rule. Sorry Russell!
Ben, I'll post your review tonight.
Thanks for the update _ I'll get it sorted.
Some good comments/thoughts there.
And I think, in a roundabout sort of way, you and Rick are both making the same underlying point; with so many tracks [a good thing to some, bad thing to others] on offer, it will be hard to stop people skipping through some of the ones they perceive to be the 'weaker ones'.
Welcome where ?
I always thought Milburn were doing their stuff a while and pre-dated the formation of Arctic Monkeys (but I could be wrong).
Hey Ed - do you have a website or a MySpace page people can listen to you at?
I think I got it slightly wrong above. Shows you should not rely on memory alone before posting.
The singer's site I mention is actually that of a band (I think, although it could just be her) by the name of Cruella de Mill and the 101 Damnations. I don't know what the link between these bands actually is, but there's also The Moulettes.
Anyway, I found all three (Modernaire, Cruella de Mill and the 101 Damnations and The Moulettes) quite a good listen, although the last two sound rather similar. Dig out their MySpace.
Works for me (?)
I've amended it. Perhaps the official one is temporarily down, or now defunct.
And a quick reminder for The Pigeon Detectives in-store appearance at HMV on Tuesday 29th May. Wristbands are free, available from 9am on Tuesday morning.
Rick has a very wide taste in music and the ability to write objectively about a lot of genre.
You can view his past contributions on the site through his writer profile (click his name at the top of the review).
I really like this song too. But, as MQ hints, I'm also quite a sucker for pop tunes...
I really like this album.
Yeah, I've been listening to the album, and it's got a few songs that catch my attention every time they come through on the iTunes shuffle.
Hehe, shows how different us folk are - I quite like the opening track on their MySpace...
Your 'hint' or assumption (or observation, if true) has zero relevance to anything at all, so it was not worth stating and it was important I dispelled this myth. Which is why I stated that location of band, or reviewer, has no relevance on this site. You appear to be clutching at straws to try and explain what is simply a difference in opinion; instead of just accepting that a review is merely one person's point of view, at a point in time, and almost always forgotten and left to the past. Finally, in reference to your comments about an unrelated gig: no review I've ever seen is impartial, because all writers come preloaded with prejudices. If anyone suggests they write objectively, I'd counter that they are lying to themselves, as they cannot help but introduce their opinions - a review will be almost entirely subjective. Of course some people may be better at disguising it than others.
So were Wintermute, who opened. Very good, I thought.
The Leeds 'Info Session' is at Mine, LUU from 7pm-11pm
94 tracks! That's the longest tracklisting I've ever seen on here.... happy scrolling
I should put back that feature where you can see average stars from individual writers. It's entirely subjective, and each writer has their own 'scoring scheme' and only when you see it averaged out can you recognise brilliant vs good vs bad. So a 7/10 may indicate 'excellent' from writer A, and 'average' from writer B.
This is Stuart's first review, and I agree it is very well written and I enjoyed reading it myself.
In time, we may see what a 7/10 means to Stuart compared to others.
Might get that feature back in, I think it had some uses...
I thought you were right first time - it is the album cover, isn't it?
I just had a look at the video on their web site and it made me feel quite depressed. Aggressive but dull - with very little musical spark I thought.
It's probably one of their better songs too!
I'm not a fan of Harrisons either, although I'd say that this song stands out for me above the rest of their material.
Band order now corrected, as per feedback.
Mean Fiddler have now brought this forward to Monday, 19th March at 645pm for the announcement, and 7pm for the tickets.
You people obviously have never heard the Buck Brothers play live
And the relevance to any CD review is... Or were you expecting we review the live show instead of the CD? Sadly, we got the CD, but I've noted your comments.
...I don't think they deserve this slating before they are famous...
Eh? Ignoring for a moment what defines 'famous', are you suggesting that all bands deserve to receive rosy reviews until they reach a certain level of popularity, regardless of their ability? How fair is it to start being cruel to a band, just because they're famous. Bit inconsistent there don't you think? I know I said I liked them yesterday, but ...
And how would you intend to separate the good amateur bands from the not-so-good? How do you start a buzz for good new bands if all new bands, by default, have to be classed as good.
...and stop with the critising! (sic)
Haha, I'm sure the band can take it.
But to answer your point, well, as soon as you perform in public you expect people watching to be forming opinions. It's a natural reaction. Or when you send your CDs out for a critical review, you expect the good with the bad. I would assume, and hope, that the band understand this. Even if you don't.
Pandering to the press is a game, a gamble. Sometimes you win, and people like your band, and sometimes you lose, and they don't.
PS - I couldn't express my love on your MySpace page because it said I wasn't your friend. Is this true?
I was really impressed by Pull Tiger Tail at the Met, a nice meandering of styles that kept my attention throughout, increasingly poppy as the set went on, and even had me singing along at one point(in my head, of course!)
a) will sort out the credit to Dave now.
b) most LMS pages are cached, so some time in the next 24 hours your writer's page ought to update with this review.
Go on... buy it!
From their name alone, I always thought Bowling For Soup would be a ska band. And probably overweight as well, wearing baggy pants that can fit two legs down one trouser leg. And one of them has a beard. Probably the fat one. I am so judgemental, and I got all of this from their name. How close was I?
How I wish it were true. I clicked on the £8.99 two times earlier... woo, half way to a KitKat Chunky
Apparently, the single will also be available as a digital download for a month prior to its official release date.
Get it digitally from Monday, 19th February.
: shock :
(shame we don't have a smiley)
Hi Sam - all I found was an un-dated Sandman Magazine review. I think you have to search Google for Insipid and one of their song titles. But I couldn't find anything else.
I cannot deny your right to an opinion and it's certainly one point of view.
I'm sorry the site was not to your liking, but this is pretty standard stuff on LMS and if you don't like the approach in this review I suspect you won't like that much of our content. I wouldn't want you to get disappointed should you return and look around at further articles. I sense, if you did, then you might be mightily frustrated with what you find.
I have no answer, it's just how things are... I'm sorry we had to end it this way.
Domino Records is currently hosting an exclusive free download that consists of 4 songs that featured on the night, although they were recorded in rehearsals (pre-tour).
This download will only be available until the end of January, so hurry!
I really do love this single.
It gets a recommendation from me.
Hot chart position news - and it's a cracking single imho! x
An update from the organisers:
"We have been inundated with enquiries and we have been very successful.
We now have enough bands to perform at Bramley Carnival 2007 and would like to thank everyone who has offered their services"
Yes - a very well written review.
Makes me want to check our their (her) material... which I will do tonight.
You do know, Sam, that I'll edit the article later and make your question look foolish
Great single, great video!
Thanks Sam! And a Happy Christmas to everyone else reading this today.
Yeah, I've been listening to the debut Sky Larkin single this morning. A recommended purchase I'd say.
I've also been listening to Voltage Union (single) and Piskie Sits (album). The start to 2007 looks very promising for local music if any of these January releases are to go by...
I agree, I enjoyed reading this.
Spot the Leeds bands in the "What You Like" video. Celeb. watching, what an ace tune/video.
Is anyone else singing to themselves...
She call me Mr Boombastic, Say me fantastic...
Out Monday. And forever on the radio - a high chart position I would hope, any guesses? I'd go for low 20s, or at least I reckon somewhere between 20 and 30.
Buy, buy, buy and educate your friends
Take notice of this recommendation, because I will add my support to it - this record is one of the best I've heard this year. Buy.
"...but without seether they wouldn't of done that gig"
I don't understand the relevence of this statement. Are you suggesting that Seether deserve more credit than the reviewer suggests merely because they brought a good band (Art Of Dying) with them.
Or conversely, that maybe that Art Of Dying ought to be grateful to Seether because without them they were brought to an audience and our reviewer's attention.
Or that a band (in this case Art Of Dying) needs a leg up from another band to be classed as good?
Or that a headline band must be judged better than a support band, because without the headline band the support band would not have the audience?
Or something else.
As you can see I'm a little puzzled as to what you were getting at.
But if anyone were to do any research (google) they would find endless statements using the phrase "formerly of Glassjaw".
That does not mean you don't have more up to date knowledge, Kerrigan, and we all know how things change over time - one's plans one day might not be the same when you wake up the next.
Anyway, here's the clincher for me ... without wanting to prove a point but the Head Automatica *official* website and the *official band biography* on their official site (the biog as sent to press, etc) says, and I quote:
"... the former frontman of angsty alt-hardcore band Glassjaw."
The writer at LMS may have got the wrong end of the stick, but maybe the 'this isn't quite true' awareness campaign ought to start with getting the band's official website up to date!?
Afterall, where else would you expect to be the authority source (when doing 'research') than the official website itself.
LMS appears to have 'lost' an interview we did several years back with Evan Dando Hmmm, I wonder if I can find it and post it.
* just for info, before this article was posted I reviewed its content/opening para and assumed it to be in jest, otherwise I'd have asked for it to have been rephrased *
Now a response to your thoughts... as for the review itself being "awful" I would disagree. Rick described the venue/atmosphere, describes what the band played (in some depth), the crowd's reaction to those songs and them summarised the show. Well structured to me, and read very well.
To close, I'd add that it matters very little if our reviewer left after The Needles finished in my opinion.
I've haven't got around to writing about Friday (yet), but Klaxons were the best of the day for me!
A little, yes
Forensic Psychiatry Research Society?
Flex-Plan Retirement Services?
Facility Program Requirements Suite?
I couldn't find any others, what does FPRS mean?
Am well impressed with this band.
I recall making a comment last night that I'd like to see the singer in a solo acoustic setting - and was informed that he does play such gigs, so any ideas where/when and I'll pop down.
"I think you're being a bit mean in this review, listening to four songs on a band's first ep doesnt qualify you to judge whether the lead singer can or can not sing!"
... of course it does! If the band didn't want to be judged they shouldn't have sent in the CD. And if a singer cannot prove he can sing in four songs, how many songs do you suggest it should take?
And what relevence in the world does headlining at the Cockpit have?
As I said I like the tunes myself, and like the second vocalist (the one that screams!) but agree with the reviewer that to my ears the singer occasionally loses it. And this makes the overal opinion of the band lower. Which is sad, because generally I enjoyed what I listened to.
I'm not on form today am I, you got in just before me and answered the question before I (re)asked it.
I officially retire.
Leeds bands O Fracas and Napoleon IIIrd also added to the line up (their announcement was delayed until after Futuresound).
Quite simply, this is a fantastic album!
I have no idea what music Danny listens to *now*, but he gave more than a few hints in the review that this was the music he once listened to quite a lot. Or at least that was what I took from his words.
Maybe he simply thought you weren't as good as other bands in the genre?
But as has been said a million times before, people reading reviews always read through the opinion and look towards the description... does it sound like something you would like? No one is that bothered whether the reviewer likes them, surely, why live your life as someone else.
So long as you think he puts you in the right ballpark genre wise, you may win a few extra listeners. And that's what you're after, no?
Scott, I think if you look through the hundreds of reviews Rick has written over the years he has shown a knowledge of a wide range of genre. I agree with the sentiment but the practicalities are such I must disagree with the 'must be in love with the genre' view. And how narrow does that become? To each sub genre? Etc. I wouldn't call Lewis particularly specialist listening (no offence Lewis).
I disagree, especially for two reasons ... a) given the finite and small number of reviewers a publication has access to and b) I'd have said Lewis falls clearly in Rick's 'domain' anyway.
I love the video to "Eighteen".
Yeah. I just remember singing about monkeys.
"Because, ultimately, the best opinion in music is your own. Review are a guide, not gospel."
SATURDAY 5th August - my mistake.
I have 'How It All Went Wrong' on 7", a great song...
Are The Manhattan Love Suicides formed out of - or in any way related to - Pop Threat?
I blame the sub editor.
YOU fucked up - it's called an opinion...
UPDATE: This single will be available from Monday, 5th June. It will be stocked in Crash, Jumbo and HMV.
At 4pm on Monday Jack Afro will play an in-store at Crash records to promote the release.
I like this single.
I liked their last single.
I like this band.
I've yet to see Little Man Tate, but I've got this single and an earlier one. I think it was based on an article in Sandman or something like that which made me have a listen.
Good band imho, I rather like them.
Grade 1 Seymour - it's the only way to go
You know, as soon as people start talking about "real music fans" and dissing everyone that likes music they don't as "scenesters" I switch off and doze because I have no time for people with such arrogant ignorance ...
btw, this reply in a joint reply to both your recent comments (on this and the FR thread) mr "I just signed up with a joke name to make some cheap shots" (btw, I have access to suggest you're in The Invention myself). You're fine to have an opinion like this, have your shot at people in Leeds that like all kinds of music, and disappear off with your pseudonym as quick as you arrived.
I just find such a holier-than-thou attitude very childish, immature and totally ignorant myself.
It sucks even more if it comes from the band under a false name.
btw - knowing Maria, that's two of you that have now totally misjudged her with your "oh she must be a scenester because she doesn't like this band" attitude. Get over yourselves, enjoy what you like, and just appreciate others don't necessarily like what you do. Pah.
I suggest you read it again dear. Pretty much every single sentence described the CD and its music. Maybe you didn't understand, but it's in English and rather easy to comprehend.
I do believe it is important to have such a function though. I think bands/visitors ought to have a right to appeal. It's how they go about it that oftens leads me to despair.
haha, nah, I'm just taking the piss, not being serious
"Someone who will enlighten me whether the EP is worth buying" - Andy, I don't think you should base your purchasing decisions on any one person's review (from anywhere). Have a read around, have a listen (it's been played to death and available for streaming) and make your mind up on music - I would never recommend someone bases a decision on recommendations (or rants) from the likes of NME, etc (and I include LMS in the etc).
I've never seen Stagger myself, although they are on the BYT 2006 CD aren't they?
Forward Russia Danny, Forward - there is no i or I
The single has been put back to May 1st I think.
Yeah, the LMS site certainly lacks content/coverage of hip hop (sadly). Looks interesting...
Very good - although not at all interesting. Still, you have entertained me for a few minutes on a rainy Sunday afternoon (which is more than I can say for a recent night in Manchester). Fair play to you.
hehe ... rumbled
On his profile page?
Hi Andy Harvey Drummer Deluxe
Yeah, I like them too.
I checked them out following some of Luke's earlier live reviews which recommended them to me. And I'm glad I did.
If I assume that the majority of the readers will have heard of the band(s) being reviewed, I usually write in the first person and give my personal reaction to the music. I rarely go into describing 'the music' itself these days, unless it is a band I feel people need some explanation of.
I enjoyed reading this review.
I think the comments/history here shows that everyone reacts differently to the delivery of words just as much as they do to music. And there is no right or wrong way to approach either.
It was a great gig! All three bands played well, and this review is excellent - it reminds me of the fun I had on Friday
Do you have any betting tips, Alfonse? I might trust you on a few wagers I reckon.
Ah yes, Backbeat - an excellent print magazine. Certainly 1997 predates both LMS and "Leeds Music" websites. Leeds Music sprung up for less than a year in around 2000. Not sure who Gavin will have been in 1997. Thanks again, certainly clears stuff up. Backbeat sadly came to an end a few years ago, although you can find its creator in Sandman (primarily doing photography). Thanks!
I don't think he did; that's why I suggest reading it all.
Sorted out now, but I've had to append (Leeds) to the band's name to distinguish them from the other band already on the site. Shame. But hey... there's a few other bands in the a-z that share names and I just put something in brackets so they can be told apart.
... actually that made me think - are The KBC still playing this Friday, I'm just a tad confused now when you say April (and I know you'll know ).
I really enjoyed reading this interview!
Errrm, ok. Sorry. Can you re-email me what's missing...
I'd say second single myself, I wouldn't include Nine really myself, but you could say third yeah.
Hi. I enjoyed your set last night at the Mixing Tin
The album is out now using nochex from the band's website.
Not really, the release or its bands are in no way associated to the reviewer.
Of course Chris. Look through the archives, there's reviews from all over. Quarry wrote one from York recently, and there's one of The Hair in Lincoln.
There's a few tracks listed in their profile page on LMS, and if you go to their site, then to their forum, there's details of how to listen to most of their songs.
(ooops, didn't realise it was confusing, thanks for the feedback - it's all going to change anyway as I continue the site redesign)
Robby, I think me and you read a different review. It was a very, very positive write up for EITS. In my opinion.
I really enjoyed this review, and I love the single. Not yet bored of hearing it either...
The B-side, "Bigger Boys And Stolen Sweethearts", is also a favourite of mine.
Bit of related info: the single launch gig is on Sunday 16th October at Fab Cafe (FREE ENTRY). Single is officially out on the Monday (17th) but will be available the day before at the launch show. Available as a limited edition 7" from Jumbo and from www.theengineroom.org.uk
It all started when you said my column in Sandman was rubbish, you're paying for that now
With all due respect to anyone else thinking of posting here, I think (however valid they seem/are) that instead of going over the same points - once first raised that is - with everyone getting a 'dig in' people should look at how LaxtonsSuperb approached his feedback, and look at providing something worthwhile, constructive and useful so that Ben can read and move on, and you (the readers) will know you've made a difference if you see the improvements you suggest in later articles and reviews.
Thanks Rach, you too
Hehehe, I do my best ...
So it was you Mido
On any other night 250 would be fantastic...
Yeah, I'd echo that, it was great reading through the Main Stage activity... cheers Luke!
I remember The Infadels from Glastonbury. I was quite impressed by them. Didn't dawn on me now that they were Nasty Fest headliners even though I saw them on the listings
Click through to the band's page on LMS for a link to their new single's video...
I only just noticed but this release seems to have been delayed. See news below.
Black Wire's new single 'Smoke and Mirrors' is released on Cd and 7" vinyl on Monday (25th July)!!!
The 7" comes backed with new song No One Loves You' and the CD with 'No One Loves You' and another brand new track 'I Don't Feel Well'
Our own band page would suggest as much too...
Yeah, I enjoyed reading this review too.
Andy probably has it right. From his point of view.
Dave's vocals will evoke entirely different reactions from different people, as Kink and myself have discussed before. I, for one, don't like them. Others will love them. They are quite striking to listen to, and hence you'll either like them or dislike them, I don't think there's much middle ground.
Hi MQ, I think I agree more with Andy on this one. It's very average in my opinion.
I really like this album
"The acely named Menbrain employ shameless crowd participation from the word go and this is PROPER ROCK, like Guns'n'Roses, but from Guiseley. No 80's rock cliché is left undone, and the crowd goes berzerk."
That's what was said, I read this to say you were good and the crowd loved you
And yourself for "twat"... ?
I quite liked Snow White
I think the review starts by saying "4 track EP" so I guess there are different copies banging about ...
I didn't interpreted his comment that way. It made sense to me.
... worse than that ...
(read the forum)
Yeah, but Luke, what Harry is giving is an idea of the audience, the impressions, the sights. He does that well. That sentence isn't "wrong", a reviewer is hardly going to quiz each and every member of the 400 people in the venue in case he might not have picked their background, now is he. He's telling people what things looked like, and for that he is bang on right, regardless of whether you as an individual go to a gig every day or not. Make sense? A rant? A silly comment perhaps. What does "wrong again" mean, do you know something about Mr Allen we don't, perhaps?
Doesn't kick into action until later in the year. July time. Applications in May maybe. Search LMS for Futuresound you should get some idea from past news items when it is.
Blame the Editor of the CD review section I think.
"I've nothing more to say to any of you" - sounds like a good plan. You can repeat your views as many times as you like, but you won't convince me to agree with them.
Age? Well you'll find you wrote your age. I said your views were antiquated, I had no interest in how old you are. I even explained this point again in my second reply, after your first misinterpretation.
Well, it was nice talking.
Looking at their site I think this promotional CD is a 50/50 mix of THE STALKER EP and EP 3. Is that right? All tracks look available for free download too, and sound rather ace! Just listening to Always Alone now. Splendid imho
That's right. The front page "list" de-duplicates, with the first posting taking precedence.
Rach, you could always call them up to ask to confirm...
My mistake (as usual) - will sort it tonight
Official launch for the EP tomorrow night at The Vine I think... ?
It's the silence that'll get ya.
Madeleine Brooks plays at Love Apple in Bradford on Sunday October 17th.
Mention of the Scaras on the front page of Is This Music?, but I got to dash - will check it out when I return
(I think you can assume most members will vote for their own band, and we don't frown upon that)
Is there a contact for Mr Roberts? E-mail?
The link above is to the video. By all accounts this was released in August 2003, but we only just received it; although, there is an album out. Anyway, I like this song (via the video) so just sharing it with you - at The Vine at some point I hear.
Yes, I read that on the UJG site at the time - but it didn't explain its point (very well) so I didn't "get it". One day I might revisit and see if I understand it on a second read.
The Forty5s - I get quite confused really when I do the listings... I presume there is no relation to either the "major" band The 45s or other Leeds band The Lost 45s?
There's an NME album listening post, and so far I'm on track 7. I rather like the current single - track 1 - but the rest has so far washed over me as being rather pants... I've not been much of a fan myself to be fair, although I did like their debut single and one of the other songs they released. But I've been a bit "meh" about the rest of their stuff/this album... I don't think I'd have awaded as little as one star, but they wouldn't have a good review for this from me, not by a long shot... I think Andy has this one nailed.
There you go...
Because the writer wished to review it I guess, we don't have any rules here and the team can submit whatever reviews they wish...
I think it is now 6th September ...
Yeah, we have that on their page too! Must try harder.
So you went for "so do the police". So far on the lyric websites, one agrees with you. Another says "summon the police" which I originally thought it was, another went for "sound of the police" and finally one bizarrely went for "calling the police". Good song, I like it...
Mike, yours was the album. This is the single. Out last Monday. Same name though.
It's cached, will be updated next within seven days.
I had a listen to their sound clip on the site, and didn't think it was that bad actually... granted it wasn't the song you reviewed. But I could find myself liking them I think...
Ha ha You missed a The Police joke though...
Maybe they didn't have the newer one. What makes 2003 "new" anyway? It's all relative. Si & PC are correct, in that a) yes, new writer and b) we don't have a restriction on how long after a CD is released before we review it.
Just as shops still sell "old" CDs, the world doesn't stop.
Another one on the 22nd too.
I think the Faversham has a festival of sorts each weekend during August.
If you go to their site (follow the link from their band profile page on this site) you'll find the following text:
"website for the leeds band black wire. featuring thomas greatorex, dan wilson and simon borg".
Sam, I edited your review; what he means is that there were two "Fact Three" listed in the original.
As you mayhave guessed, I didn't exactly write much of that article.
Check out the PR @ www.hallornothing.com/newsite/Newsdetail.asp?NewsKey=508
Having thought about it a bit more now, and ignoring what the site would suggest for a moment.
Having had several years experience of doing listings for Leeds venues, and reading other city gig guides too, I think that when you come to now compare the breakdown of Leeds bands with profiles on this site to what city venues are putting on, you can be assured you have an accurate representation when you visit this site.
Yes, there are bands missing, but this will be the case for all styles of music.
The one section I know we're lacking though, and counters this observation is the "urban music" styles which do well in Leeds but are not featured on here.
However for the example genre quoted I think what you see is what you have in Leeds. Unless these people gig in places that never advertise anywhere...
Yeah, unfortunately I got 404 NOT FOUND on all the ones I wanted to download. Were any available? I gave up in the end.
i'll sort it out tonight
"your taste leaves alot to be desired" ... as subjective a comment as the review itself. What you're saying is that your taste doesn't match Rick's (nor does your's match mine, nor mine Rick's I suspect 'cos we're all different people) but it doesn't mean he's any less passionate about music than you, or me, or anyone.
What I'm trying to say is that your view that his taste leaves a lot to be desired is very much subjective and therefore cannot be taken as criticism, which I believe was actually the intention.
Does anyone know why The Cribs and 10,000 Things are still listed on the official website for the Carling Stage but have been removed from the press releases as of today?
Firstly, I have a copy myself I haven't listened to yet, but will do so. Secondly, I don't think a lot of the stuff I hear on the radio is any good. And not everything I hear on the radio gets good reviews in the press. I really don't see the link you are trying to make between being played on radio and the fact this should equate to receiving a good review I'm afraid. It's a none argument in my opinion. As for the record in question, I will listen myself this weekend.
That's not how it reads to me...
I've heard what could be the line up but will post it when I'm allowed.
But why or how did they enter? Doesn't their site say they are from Peterborough or something. Futuresound is for West Yorkshire bands only. Or at AH a local band, and I'm just confused.
Note: url tags available now, message above amended.
A few reviews good on here, but what do you think of the video that's available to watch from these pages? Make you want to go out and buy?
I think Simon put a closer on the other The Cribs thread, and as I see it, let's leave it that way.
Oh, he didn't have to. That's just what he bought...
Positive review though, decent thoughts and a recommendation. Chill.
Subject closed / more violence-threatening messages deleted.
Sorry kids, but if you're going to act so immature may I ask you do it elsewhere; if you intend to stick around this site then grow up...
Ask, and ye shall have.
Recommend people download the available tune and have a listen. I was a bit dubiu during the first 30 seconds-ish, mainly with the vocals which didn't agree with me, but I really like that chorus and the rest of the tune has just grown on me. I can't pin down what it reminds me of though. Very good.
Sorry to the few that posted genuine comments, I've deleted this thread due to the threatening nature of a number of posts (almost from day one). Sorry. PM me if you wish to reply.
Rick - I would totally agree with you on the general point that mates reviewing mates is not something we want at LMS, and I do actively turn down such submissions or try to educate potential new writers to that fact. I am still unsure whether Lewis *is* friends with Buen Chico, but if he is, then the fact he reviewed in an objective manner is all the more credit to him. In the past I have reviewed favourably bands that I have associations with. Yes, like breaking my own rules. If you try to be objective, and I think Lewis did this rather well in this case, the fact you may know the band may not be 'so bad' in the scheme of things. Does that sound rather contrary? However, I would agree that the "best in Leeds" statement may have been rather subjective, but I don't think we can deny Lewis' right to express who he thinks are the best. We do it all the time, and probably none of us would agree with each other. I do agree, if it reads like a friend saying "they're the best" then it probably doesn't hold much weight and I'll stop now before I go full circle on the arguments for and against. Summary: I like the review, yet I understand all the points made.
"I really didn't want to get involved in the previous discussion" - I said this earlier, and I'm dropping out of this discussion now. I just disagree, nothing more for me to say really.
Now out on the 17th May I think.
I seem to remember a band called "Lodger" doing the uk indie scene in the mid-late (ish) nineties? Anyone recall?
I must agree with you Sam, I listened to this demo and was very impressed.
If you read the review it is actually a year old: Monday, 17 March 2003
It didn't make sense to me either, and we reviewed it a while back too. But that's what the label's press release said, and we hadn't announced the release date before, so I just thought it must be right...
Yeah. Although their website was always thebreakfast.co.uk since day one, and it still says The Psychedelic Breakfast as the band name when you open the page up. All the while they did gigs as The Psychedelic Breakfast. As everything else on this particular site is under The Psychedelic Breakfast, seems to me easier to keep it all together... ?
My interpretation of the Kenosha review was that it was good
I don't think you're going to get any disagreement from (most of) the people here, Terrence. All in favour of three (or more) band line ups, and local supports to touring bands.
yeah Sam, be told, you're never accurate you "crettin".
"Spring don't proclaim to be any form of punk you crettin" said comment. "Spring are, as far as I can tell, an entirely punk free zone" said review. I think the two agree? Personally, I read this review and thought it wasn't blinkered or narrow minded, or biased towards their own tastes. You can list other reviews by our writers by clicking on their name at the bottom of articles. This will give you an impression of their background in writing (for this site). Thanks.
"about the music scene on it's own official website"
On the basis what you say is true Dan then to be fair but by saying that it had to be remixed and now sounds good actually proves the original point made in the review. i.e. that it wasn't well mixed in the first place. You've agreed with the reviewer, intentionally or otherwise, that the submitted version was not initially tip top. So rather than "shove that up per 2 stars", you've managed to confirm the validity of such an award. That said, the point is that it is good to hear that (if correct) the band have been able to have it looked at, which also shows someone is (behind all the post-review comment on here) reading what the reviewer had to say in the first place because I don't think anyone doubts the songs are good.
how did it go last night matt?
yeah my fault I'll sort it tonight
What a great gig last night, MS are very entertaining live !
Cathy, I've sorted the layout of the review out now. My fault I guess.
I have to admit, I rather liked this CD myself. But then I am easily pleased...
I'd give it four stars ****
As I've already said, I have no comment to make on the "band of the month", who's won in the past, who's winning now, nor did I make any in my original post. I hadn't even checked the Top 10 since last month, although I have of course done so now to see what you could possibly have been talking about because your obscure reply threw me a little. And yes. I would join any discussion if I felt I really wanted to - as is any member's right - be it to post a positive or negative opinion I may have an urge to express.
This is a rather ace album, and band This message was last edited on 07/12/03 11.33:42
Get a haircut. Hmmph, students...
"this site says its because they take drugs" - I intend to keep out of your main argument, because frankly I have no idea what your point is any more, but on this comment... if you can remember back through your discussion with Sam, I think you'll find he told you that it is the band who promote themselves as active drug takers as a way to promote themselves to music fans who probably think that this is cool. I think Sam said it was mentioned throughout their press literature. On that subject, The Blueskins are promoted by their label in a similar way. When you promote yourself as such, you have to expect that people writing about you will pick up on it.
"and have something to do with the bandwagon club" I thought that was an opinion expressed on this forum, not the review itself? I could be wrong, but if it wasn't mentioned in the review it's hardly 'this site' in the same way as 'this site' would not wish to associate itself with your opinions either. This message was last edited on 16/10/03 7.45:52
The ugly balding guy at the front sounded like me. Only I wasn't there. Nor do I dance. I've read a few Black Wire reviews now and they all sound really positive, and Whiskas played me a storming track he had. Really good. But that's all I know really, I haven't had chance to get out and see them.
Having seen Smilex live twice now, I would recommend the RPC gig in November!
Hi Cathy! No worries. From the descriptions, Whiskas said : Codify + Laura Audio + The Black Helicopters
Discussion point if anyone is interested: I know the origin of the label, but do Fulc see themselves as "unsigned"? Does the radio exposure outweigh being classed as an unsigned band. And does this, or would this, affect the credability of the label?
Yeah, but I stand by it. Thing is, I didn't think they were Bright Young Things; I just thought they were a very good band. The main reason why I didn't think they were "Bright Young Things" was because I didn't think what they did was what BYT was all about: ie rewarding unoriginal and derivative bands (which you can gather from the rest of the review). I didn't question their ability at all, in fact I did say many times I thought they were a very good band. I still believe the things I wrote that day, even with hindsight, which personally I think is a good thing. I think The Music have evolved a hell of a lot from Insense, which is a very good thing.
I loved that song Madonna wrote about Bill Oddy
I just read elsewhere that she's also claiming now that she wasn't even booked/confirmed! Anyone have any more on that one???
of course i don't mean bored at the gig, just when i wrote the review... !!!
Sam, do you mean because you think they're really good or really bad?
Sounds like a great gig... !
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